The Tories hokey cokey on a “Swiss style” new dawn for Brexit, and an exploration of what “real Brexit” might mean, if anything One of the contradictions in Brexiter thinking - there are many as you know, but this example is particularly significant - is that while they complain about Remainers not “accepting the result”, quickly followed by us “moving on”, they also insist that Brexit isn’t finished and there is much more to accomplish in order to render it complete. Whether that’s to do with the Northern Ireland Protocol or “taking advantage of the opportunities Brexit has to offer”, somehow “Real Brexit” has yet to dawn. How can Remainers accept something they didn’t agree with if they don’t even know what its final state will look like given the architects of the project don’t seem to know either?
"If the EU had fallen apart shortly after the referendum, with France and Germany fighting with each other"
I remember this prediction, and it showed the level of ignorance about the EU within the UK, which sadly seems to be common both sides. The EU began as the European Coal and Steel Association back in the 50's in order to make war impossible between member states and end the madness of the last centuries, where each side waited for a new generation of men to grow to fighting age, then went off to attack one of their neighbours. France and Germany were at the forefront of this and even German reunification was only agreed to by the French on condition the countries shared a currency. The EU isn't going to collapse because it has worked as a peace project; the Brexit leaders making these predictions have clearly not learned the lessons of history, nor have they understood history itself.
I understand where you are coming from, Nick, but there is a much bigger struggle with reality than most think. Are the good folk of Great Britain going to stand by as they enter the basket case region that Argentina inhabit or confront the problem solving of the unicorn herders in the Uplands?
I wonder if Keir Starmer will read this and digest the realty of Brexit or has he now affiliated Labour the ERG? If so,I can see Farage taking over. Well, hopefully not!
"If the EU had fallen apart shortly after the referendum, with France and Germany fighting with each other"
I remember this prediction, and it showed the level of ignorance about the EU within the UK, which sadly seems to be common both sides. The EU began as the European Coal and Steel Association back in the 50's in order to make war impossible between member states and end the madness of the last centuries, where each side waited for a new generation of men to grow to fighting age, then went off to attack one of their neighbours. France and Germany were at the forefront of this and even German reunification was only agreed to by the French on condition the countries shared a currency. The EU isn't going to collapse because it has worked as a peace project; the Brexit leaders making these predictions have clearly not learned the lessons of history, nor have they understood history itself.
I understand where you are coming from, Nick, but there is a much bigger struggle with reality than most think. Are the good folk of Great Britain going to stand by as they enter the basket case region that Argentina inhabit or confront the problem solving of the unicorn herders in the Uplands?
A choice must be made surely!
I wonder if Keir Starmer will read this and digest the realty of Brexit or has he now affiliated Labour the ERG? If so,I can see Farage taking over. Well, hopefully not!