Hmm I seem to recall more than once to NT's saying that Labour needed to try Brexit and show that it doesn't work before going for Rejoin, and more than once I have said in these comments that that strategy wouldn't work -- all that would happen is that Labour would be tarred with the brush of that failure. Yet now, with all due respect, NT seems to be saying something close to what I have said, namely that Labour cannot afford to try to operate Brexit and need to be honest and go straight to the Rejoin locus (as far as practically possible within whatever time frame)
I witnessed one conversation from a One Nation Tory interested in jumping ship to the LibDems and asking if the activists would be happy having the party absorb that body of opinion and be pushed towards the centre right and thereby more able to achieve and retain power with a vacuum or chaos on the right. The answer was a resounding no. That does not make it impossible though.
But proper PR voting would offer realistic support to share power for every substantial party faction that wants to become a party in it's own right. The greater number of more narrowly focussed parties will be less fractious and less interested in capturing other factions to push through a different agenda. Instead they will have have to bargain openly to form coalitions. It would also make the Farage right and the Corbyn left less likely to ever be in power, not unless they moderate their views. It's all good!
"We’ve already had one YouGov poll putting Reform within two points of the Tories. If we get one that puts Reform ahead of the Conservatives, watch all hell break loose."
Yougov have only just changed their weightings for ReformUK reducing their headline percentage of support. By the previous measure, both the Tories and Reform UK would have been on 18% tied.
On seats, Yougov had the LibDems in the low 60's, 5 seats higher than the Tories and with Reform UK on 3 seats, which would have included Farridge. I agree that having him in Parliament would stir up the EU issue, breaking the present log jam
Do you think it says anything about the chances of a moderately right wing party forming in the future? While I'm enjoying seeing the Tories trashed, I do also worry about what might happen to one-nation types if they don't have a natural home. A lot will vote Lim Dem this time, but could soon get bored with a party with little chance of ever forming their own government. At which point, many could hold their nose and vote for whatever the further right becomes in the future.
Hmm I seem to recall more than once to NT's saying that Labour needed to try Brexit and show that it doesn't work before going for Rejoin, and more than once I have said in these comments that that strategy wouldn't work -- all that would happen is that Labour would be tarred with the brush of that failure. Yet now, with all due respect, NT seems to be saying something close to what I have said, namely that Labour cannot afford to try to operate Brexit and need to be honest and go straight to the Rejoin locus (as far as practically possible within whatever time frame)
I witnessed one conversation from a One Nation Tory interested in jumping ship to the LibDems and asking if the activists would be happy having the party absorb that body of opinion and be pushed towards the centre right and thereby more able to achieve and retain power with a vacuum or chaos on the right. The answer was a resounding no. That does not make it impossible though.
But proper PR voting would offer realistic support to share power for every substantial party faction that wants to become a party in it's own right. The greater number of more narrowly focussed parties will be less fractious and less interested in capturing other factions to push through a different agenda. Instead they will have have to bargain openly to form coalitions. It would also make the Farage right and the Corbyn left less likely to ever be in power, not unless they moderate their views. It's all good!
UK out of ECHR within 10 years.
All racists account for almost 30% and that's enough for the Tories.
Good luck.
"We’ve already had one YouGov poll putting Reform within two points of the Tories. If we get one that puts Reform ahead of the Conservatives, watch all hell break loose."
Yougov have only just changed their weightings for ReformUK reducing their headline percentage of support. By the previous measure, both the Tories and Reform UK would have been on 18% tied.
On seats, Yougov had the LibDems in the low 60's, 5 seats higher than the Tories and with Reform UK on 3 seats, which would have included Farridge. I agree that having him in Parliament would stir up the EU issue, breaking the present log jam
Do you think it says anything about the chances of a moderately right wing party forming in the future? While I'm enjoying seeing the Tories trashed, I do also worry about what might happen to one-nation types if they don't have a natural home. A lot will vote Lim Dem this time, but could soon get bored with a party with little chance of ever forming their own government. At which point, many could hold their nose and vote for whatever the further right becomes in the future.