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Julian Petley's avatar

To add to your pessimism, which in my view is entirely justified, I would say that the EU will remain extremely wary of negotiating any closer ties with the UK as long as the possibility remains of a government coming to power that wants to re-fight Brexit and put even greater distance between the UK and the EU. Of course, if the pro-Brexit forces were taken on and neutralised by the present government, along with other sympathetic political forces, EU fears might be assuaged. But, exactly as you say, there's just no sign of that happening.

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Jonathan Brown's avatar

I think you're right that there's little / no hope of rejoining for the foreseeable future, but I still think you're making some misdiagnoses.

The Remain campaign was awful. When the Referendum was called there was nothing in Chichester, so a friend and I started a campaign there, and over time joined up with the official campaign. Most of us thought we were going to lose several weeks out.

The Leave campaign(s) - plural - were good. And this is one of the reasons I keep coming back to PR. IN effect, the Remain campaign ran a FPTP campaign. It operated as though it only needed to win a plurality of votes (and it was indeed the most-supported option). The Leave campaigns operated as if they were fighting under PR... They ran targeted and contradictory messages and then added them up together. You say Farage campaigned loudly and clearly to leave everything... but actually that's not true. Some audiences were told a vote to leave meant we'd leave everything. Others were told we'd stay in the Single Market. Asian voters in Birmingham were told Brexit would mean we could stop Eastern Europeans coming in and replace them with Asians. Other voters were told we could replace European immigrants with Americans, Australians and Canadians - or with no immigration at all.

Which brings me to the second point. The Referendum was a proxy for a lot of other battles. In effect, it asked the question (or the Leave campaign was successful in framing the referendum as): "are you satisfied with the way things are?"

The Remain campaign's underlying, complacent assumption was that things were fine. The reality in the country was that a majority were fed up.

I honestly can't see how a political campaign that called for the UK to rejoin could succeed without demonstrating that it both understood the level of dissatisfaction in the country and offered solutions that would rebuild trust in the political process. (I very much agree with you that 'Remainers' continue to be tone-deaf.)

We are stuck for the moment with FPTP and I'm sorry, but that disincentivises parties from going all out for Full rejoin. This isn't just me offering up self-justification for Lib Dem policy... This is me having campaigned within the Lib Dems and on a non-party / cross-party basis on a rejoin platform and in recent years having campaigned on a platform that was not explicitly remain. The latter has been far more successful. Sorry, but under FPTP, that's the cold, hard truth. The 60% who want to rejoin does not translate into an electoral majority for rejoining.

Where I think there may still be a ray of hope is economics... This country is in a terrible economic place and it's hard to see how anyone can fix that without rejoining the Customs Union and Single Market (or something very similar). I will remind you that it is Lib Dem policy not just to rejoin the Customs Union but the Single Market too. It will be interesting to see if a period of power, scrutiny and perhaps accountability will dent Reform (although note that they don't talk much about Brexit these days... Now that they have a stake in the current system, they also campaign on other issues - as they have to.)

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