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Nick Wray's avatar

What NT writes here is right, but I don' think that it's the whole story. Go into any supermarket and what will you see? Ranks of Mails/Suns/Expresses with simplistic headlines which every passer-by reads, even when the majority don't take the paper. Listen to the BBC and what you hear is a kind of default conservatism - it's not that all BBC presenters are raving Tories, but that there's a subliminal assumption that the Tories are the natural party of government, that the hierarchical nature of British (particularly English) society, from the royals downwards is the natural order of things and that to argue for change is rather like being the dodgy drunken uncle at a wedding which I think NT used as an image a post or two ago. I mean, in what other country is "you're being political" a put-down? I recall fondly the Brexit voter who said that he was voting Leave because the EU was "political". It's a brilliant piece of leger-de-main which the establishment in this country has used to keep everything going for their benefit since... well since 1066 maybe...

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Nick has a point about protest movements on the left and you can include the dreadful and failed Corbyn within that student politics, but not Starmer, Milliband, Brown or Blair. In fact Starmer is doing the Blair playbook so accurately and with such closely comparable results so far, that it is spooky.

Blair was so appealing to the public in leadership and moderate centrist in policy that at the time you thought that Labour would never drop this new broad consensus and return to failing with Michael Foot or even the fraught wranglings of a Wilson. But like the Tories, First Past the Post makes Labour a very broad church and the mid left and hard left are always there, attempting to capture the party for their faction. So when Milliband foolishly allowed £3 new members to immediately vote for a leadership candidate, Corbynites put the membership form on his website and every ex trotskyist, communist and Clause 4 supporter came out of the woodwork and swamped the existing membership.

Corbyn was unable to debate, do interviews properly, engage with his party, maintain niceties toward Jewish people, or to have a clue about policy and his speeches were all virtually identical. Reading out emails in PMQs and losing against a unique open goal in 2017 against the non campaigning Mrs May with unpopular inheritance tax and social care policies, did not stop Labour giving Corbyn another chance to fail bigger in 2019. While Corbyn was policy free, he attracted a classic old Stalinist fave, to take over the commanding heights of the economy, probably, or at least in stages. The unelectable government in waiting were to be putting up Corporation Tax, which was fair enough. But that was not enough. They were to nationalise 10% of company profits on top, with most going to the government and some crumbs for the union/workforce. Even this was not enough. Would they put a worker representative on the board? Although controversial as a compulsory idea, this may be not a bad idea in the company's real long term interests you might say? But no, this was far too sensible. They would make it compulsory to have 1/3 of company boards as workers without management roles. One wonders what they would all talk about on board meetings? Football, holidays, or what's been on the telly possibly? How long would it have been before the worker director numbers were expanded to becoming a majority, with affiliated Union "leadership" ? Otherwise what would have been the point of them?

No amount of electoral success by Starmer will prevent Labour's hard left from attacking him more viciously than the Tories and repeating their failed Foot/Corbyn playbooks. But when Blair took over in '97, we had an expanding economy and a charismatic leader, with public services less run down and borrowing and taxation at lower levels than today. The public are highly dissatisfied and volatile. A big Starmer win will not ensure long enough terms to give him even a chance to turn this mess around and he's ruled out joining the Single Market or even the easy one. That would be joining the Customs Union and dumping those dodgy trade deals due to wipe out domestic food production outside of organic and niches. It would happen. Subsidy has been largely ended, many farmers are working at or below cost now and many are near retirement age. They could never compete with hormone injected cattle feed lots or giant herds of semi wild livestock in the Australian outback. We could import 80% of our food as before WW1, boost all the air miles and grant more planning agreements to golf courses, with 80 odd applications in Essex alone.

Has economic growth in western Europe largely ended in our fast ageing societies? Can Starmer turn around this galloping catastrophe sufficiently to cling to office and continue the work in 2028-9? Or will the right wing press and whatever comes after out of the net and AI, work it's evil magic on the British public and they surge towards the next populist chancer wielding a chainsaw or pint of fizzy bitter? God help us.

Give us PR voting and the worst of this nasty right wing politics as expressed through the Tory party majoritarianism will no longer be able to govern, at least not normally without moderating coalitions.

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