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Parcel Of Rogue's avatar

A very thoughtful and timely piece. I had been thinking along these lines.

All the main parties are internal coalitions, albeit the LibDems are a narrower big tent that the other two. I have not looked lately, but quite recently, conference votes on issues were typically split 2/3 to the centre left and 1/3 to centre right. I have been a member on and off since the 80's, but only active for 2-3 years in the early 90's when I saw how dirty and pro Tory the local newspaper was in Epping Forest, which made getting a pro LibDem piece of news into it, nigh on impossible. So I concentrated on being in a folk rock band instead.

I have never detected any hard left elements in the LibDems, but they can be pretty right on, on social & culture war issues. these are best kept quietly private or played down from around the public for now, in my opinion.

If the LibDems came second, it would be at least a minor revolution in British politics or even if close to the Tory representation, I can see the Tory wets coming over rather reluctantly to escape the Farage populist menace. I think the LibDems are flexible enough to absorb those, after all Labour have done worse recently. There was surprisingly almost no opposition to going in with the Tories. Activists were far from keen, but felt it had to be done for the good of country, considering the financial crisis and enormous deficit and recession. Also to see where it would go after decades in the relative wilderness.

Where the coalition went was a clutch of measures pushes through against Tory gritted teeth and being bounced into various and endless unpopular cuts. Then being blamed for austerity and student finance by the major party that insisted on them and held the purse strings. They then cynically targeted LibDem seats and blew most of them away, overturning some LibDem policies enacted and failing to overturn others on renewables, due to clever contracts written by Davey, until 9 years later. I see this as payback time with bells on it. Nasty Party fools acted as if they could be in power forever and could trash a potential future coalition partner and walk away as if that had been in a vacuum. The Tories now have no substantial potential partners in Parliament and Davey has said "never" to that. Even the DUP are suspicious, in trouble and shrinking.

There is a history of Centre parties on the continent and elsewhere, with more radical memberships who are pulled by a right wing magnet of business interests and electoral maths, eventually splitting and forming new parties. You can see some of this in the excellent Danish drama Borgen. It also happened in the Netherlands with the breakaway D66, the Party LibDem activists salivate over.

What we can't all have is a political party that perfectly reflects each of our beliefs, so the best compromise is all you can do. I would have been fairly happy to have a Heseltine wet pro EU tory party in government, but their activists would never allow that and the Tory wets nearly always side with their right wing in the end, which is decidedly not acceptable or any good for the country they have literally wrecked.

If we got PR through, parties would split and new ones would form in a dynamic and competitive process that can only be good, but the coalitions would tend around the centre and public ownership and long term planning could be maintained without the Tories getting unwarranted monopoly power and selling it off or closing it all down. If you look at Germany, having PR voting has not resulted in them having any more representative parties than in Britain.

Lets welcome a broad tent LibDem centre party able to govern Britain, alternate with ( hold your nose) Labour and push the right wing populists and liars into the wilderness, out of power for the distant future and get on with rebuilding Britain.

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Tony Higgins's avatar

What a lovely world it would be if all shades of political opinion could belong to a party that really represents their beliefs. A big IF here but if the current volatility in UK politics can lead to an introduction of PR then smaller parties would not find it impossible to have a role in UK politics... which would also allow the majority who want closer ties to Europe ,and even to rejoin, to have their voice enacted.

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