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Stephen Townsley's avatar

The key feature of Faragism is not taking responsibility. Sniping from the sidelines saying “if only I was in charge things would be great”.

When he has opportunity he resigns and pops up somewhere else. At the moment UKIP was at its height he resigned. At the moment the Brexit Party was at maximum inflection he stood down candidates.

Farage is all about the grift. Making money. Dragging politics to the right by threat.

He will sit on the sidelines, loved by Tory members, threatening the Conservatives by being more right wing.

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While Nick has filled in a lot of assumed detail on this case that are possibly a little over egging it, he's basically on the money. I have said repeatedly said that hoping the Tories go down to a Canadian Progressive Conservatives type defeat of the likes of 2 seats after being in power, as they did in the early 90's ( or even 90 seats), would be a case of "careful what you wish for".

Yougov have done deep analysis of the views of the British voter and their methods, along with IPSOS, are the most accurate of the bunch. If you divide views into Left, Centre Left, Centre, Centre Right and Right, the biggest group is in the centre. However, while it pains me to say it, there is no big, successful centre party, at least not that can come through with major representation based on FPTP voting, so with exceptions, the centre normally decides the result whether it goes to the Tory right or to the Labour left.

The next largest grouping is Centre Right + Right, which is larger than Centre Left + Left. So for Labour to win, they have to take most of the Centre, so cannot do this with a Corbyn/Michael Foot leadership and appear to be disadvantaged with even a mid left Ed Milliband. Of course there are other factors, mainly in what the other side are doing. The obvious example was Mrs May's robotic inability to campaign in 2017. Also the Tory's 2017 uncosted manifesto with highly unpopular policies on paying for social care or on tax cuts on big inheritances, which left a unique open goal for Labour. But the useless Corbyn still couldn't score. However, Corbyn's better result that year gave the Left a crumb of an argument on the supposed popularity of Left wing policies, when it was nothing of the sort.

FPTP voting advantages the broad right wing most of the time, wherever it is used. That is because right wing views are more evenly spread around geographical constituencies such as the large number of rural and suburban areas in useful concentrations sufficient to win most seats. The left and progressive votes are piled up much higher in Urban areas, where they achieve useless higher average vote majorities. The wasted votes on centre and left are further generated by being split between so many parties: Labour, LibDem, Green and again with Nationalists in the devolved nations, all with distinct political traditions.

The centre and left have so many disadvantages in the present unfair British political system and the large number of Right wing voters are not going away. Even as Tory incompetence, corruption and economic failure causes right wing voters to stay at home in millions this time, or to vote for ReformUK, or fringe parties, that represents a broad right wing movement in flux. It will regroup itself and make a more serious stab at power . Farage is their best chance to make a serious electoral stab in 2029 if they keep on moving to the populist right.

The sensible alternative would be for the Tories to go moderate One Nation. But those MPs were either expelled or made to sign fascistic like loyalty agreements to De Pfeffel and Brexit. These were elected MPs who are supposed to represent their constituents and their consciences, not rubber stamps for Johnson and the Leave campaign. They narrowly lost the Referendum, are cowed and have little Tory membership support for any leadership candidates. They are not coming back for the forseeable, so it's a populist right wing future for the Tories.

Starmer and Davey have to be bold and confect a reason to join the Single Market and fast or the Industrial Strategy and green conversion both parties offer, will fail to bring back much growth. They will also need to borrow and reverse austerity to get money flowing through our failing councils, health authorities and closing high streets and pubs, as government spending makes up 40% of the economy and any £1 spent generates £3.50 as it goes around and around. If they don't do so, a populist nasty party, likely led by Farage will be banging on the door to be let back in practically the blink of an eye. Only once in the modern era has the combined forces of the right exceeded the votes of the left + centre, which was 2015 at 51%, when UKIP were on their record 12%, but the LibDems were down on 8%, while the Tories were on the up and Labour were down.

The other piece of the puzzle is proper PR voting ( not AV), by which a strained future Labour Party will be able to govern into the 2030's with LibDems and Greens and build a future for this country with professionalism, continuity and consensus, keeping at bay the populist menace until it hopefully subsides.

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