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It is a good question to ask a month out from the election results but I fear that your opinion reads more like you started with your premise and are working back to justify it. You obviously have a longer history with the Lib Dems than most people myself included but I wonder how useful your experiences are now post Coalition, post Ref, post 2017, 19 etc. Are you involved in party activism? Do you go to party socials, campaigns, conferences? If not, when did you stop?

You dismiss the usual arguments about the press and such, which I think isn't unfair as that has always been the case. You also dismiss manifesto and policy blithely, then saying the party will just follow Labour. Then you note the activists are to the left of Trotsky despite the MPs/voters. Which I think also is a bit off and doesn't really reflect the reality of members or activists I've met. The current activists do include a lot of left wing people and right wing people, both united by their anger at the Tories or Labour (depending where they live).

The answer to me is simply that a month isn't a long time to know if Things Have Changed. The focus understandably has been on the new government, how it deals with the problems of Britain, its large majority etc; the Conservative collapse and long summer leadership contest; the surprising success of the Greens, the collapse of the SNP and of course the return of UKIP/Reform Party and Farage, this time in parliament. Those are all very interesting topics and I'm afraid to admit as a member, equally if not more than the recovery of the Lib Dems to 3rd.

But that's not to say it remains comparatively boring. Because MP numbers matter in parliament, even if not to media, commentators or reporters. The sheer weight of Lib Dem MPs compared to the SNP, Reform or Greens and even the Tories, will start to tell. They'll do or say interesting things in parliament, or at home, they'll get on the national media or local media. It'll be clear they're doing things in a way that they haven't really since the Coalition or before.

No one who's followed politics since after 2010 has experienced the Lib Dems as a large opposition party. This will include loads of members, activists, councillors or MPs, not just media under their mid 30s. They are used to it being a Tory/Labour(Corbyn etc)//SNP system, with Green/UKIP/Reform taking up the oxygen of opposition, with the LDs at 8-11 MPs and some by election wins. But that period is over now. Labour can no longer do oppositional politics. The Tories will be at sea for a few months/years. Reform and the Greens will be boisterous till they slowly become aware of the realities of being very Small, even if Exciting to media or voters.

So I don't think there's any need yet for Bold Prescriptions about tacking centre right, or this policy or that policy. Let’s wait to see what comes out after the party conference next month, with the new spokespeople, with the new select committee chairs and many LD MPs on most of the other committees.

I do hope the party takes a bold position on Single Market, or Rejoin though!

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Andrew Kitching's avatar

Absolutely right. Being MPs for ‘lovely places to live’ as one of my friends dubs them isn’t enough. They are the natural refuge of wet, liberal, Waitrose shopping, environmentally aware Tories.

Please ask Mark Pack what the plan is, as he’s the campaigner with influence at the top.

They (we, as I am a very passive member) need to sing from the rooftops about the single market. I would advocate joining EFTA. That would get Labour activists countering and put pressure on Starmer

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