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Alan Rew's avatar

Your quote in the third paragraph, from Laila Cunningham, just sounds like a candidate saying what she thinks her (multi-ethnic, multi-faith) audience want to hear.

Why shouldn't we think that she's cynically pandering to her audience now, only to change her tune if elected? One tactic of the hard right in the UK is to import cynical lying from the US hard right.

Marc Czerwinski's avatar

And the left don't lie all the time?

Zoltan's avatar

It’s weird how this article refers to right and left when it means far right and centre right. The only thing left about Labour is in its past. The present PLP is about where the old One-nation Conservatives used to be, pre-Thatch.

The Overton window has shifted so far that anything ‘left’ is outside the frame now. It is time that this was acknowledged and that a a new language for the political spectrum was devised. Until that happens articles like this will sound increasingly detached from reality.

The problem is not that the left has been rejected by the voters, it’s that there has been a determined and sustained push to move the Overton window right. This has meant that anything even vaguely ‘leftish’ is now portrayed as extreme and fantasist. There is this assumption that views that would once have been seen as hard-right market-fundamentalist are just ‘realist’. This despite the obvious failure of the whole neoliberal approach which collapsed in 2007-8 but staggers on in its new, more deadly, zombie form.

This resetting of the habitable political space has been achieved through control over most of the media, but also by the capture of mainstream politics by those representing a minority interest - that of wealth. They have created think tanks and funded schools of thought (mainly economics based) that promote a certain view of human nature and society dynamics.

Unless this is acknowledged and countered, the relentless rightwards move will only end when it destroys itself, and probably the rest of us, through its own greed and self-focus. By failing to challenge the repositioning of political geometry you are guilty of accepting it, and of impeding genuine efforts to resist the rightwards surge.

Marc Czerwinski's avatar

Tell me how support for transgender ideology is in any way centrist or centre right? Or open borders? Or asylum hotels? If you think these are all things that centrist voters would have accepted even a decade ago, you're deluded and far left.

I'm not saying Farage & Reform has the answers. But I know that the liberal left is now the far left.

As far left as Kamala Harris who campaigned on paying for sex assignment surgery on trans prisoners.

Zoltan's avatar

You seem to be confusing socially liberal with ‘left’. This just illustrates how the left - right paradigm has lost its usefulness. It is possible to be socially conservative while also holding relatively ‘leftish’ views on economics, and vice versa.

Unfortunately the label liberal as has become confused and contradictory. In the past people who believed that the individual and their ‘liberty’was central to how society should be arranged (as opposed to the heirarchical system with God at the top) were ‘liberal’. Now it is used as a pejorative term with no real meaning at all - as you have shown.

Marc Czerwinski's avatar

Ah, play the man not the ball.

We all know transgender ideology and it's McCarthy like enforcement in every country where it dominates, is by left govts. Sure, it's also supported by the libertarian and neo liberal/transhumanist right.

But in terms of politics, it's the brain dead bullying left who support it to the point of corroding society.

Paleo's avatar

I really like your portmanteau “throughly” combining roughly with thoroughly